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you have to raise taxes on the middle class, as bill clinton says, it's simple math. >> they'll say, though, that you can do that. there are other studies. i know the one to which you're referring. >> prove t erin, prove it. >> you can't prove either side is all i'm saying. one thing that's not true is the $5 trillion tax cut. >> i disagree with you. you can prove it. they're counting entirely on economic growth to pay forry tax cut, which is an interesting theory. that's what george bush did. look how that turned out. >> they're saying closing lo loopholes and economic growth, both. i understand you disagree with t i'm making the point of what you're saying. >> that still leaves you at least $1 trillion short. the math does not work with what they're saying. and they won't name those deductions. not a single deduction that they will close because they know it's bad for their politics. at the end of the day, this is the center. this is the core of mitt romney's economic policy. last night, he walked away from it, said he didn't have a $5 trillion tax cut. he does. that's what lowerin
you have to raise taxes on the middle class, as bill clinton says, it's simple math. >> they'll say, though, that you can do that. there are other studies. i know the one to which you're referring. >> prove t erin, prove it. >> you can't prove either side is all i'm saying. one thing that's not true is the $5 trillion tax cut. >> i disagree with you. you can prove it. they're counting entirely on economic growth to pay forry tax cut, which is an interesting theory....
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bill clinton nor john kennedy but leftist in the white house that we have to defeat. lou: is the governor romney going to b.v. tea explainer in chief? obama's made a joke he was as clear and articulating the policies that have been followed clearer than anyone in the administration. >> i think it will be very clear. those five points you hear about and you have to be concise and clear that is what romney has been but what is the president's record? he doesn't want to talk about it. it stinks. the american people know it. lou: reince priebus. chair of the rnc. thank you. the fed bias in illinois? does this the administration want to move prisoners from guantanamo bay to a civilian prison? where is the president's cabinet? to even know who was then this cabinet? wolak of leadership could you name the secretary of commerce? quick. we will be right back. around the country, around the corner. us bank. lou: we have the most persistent a visible and relent late asian relenting president since bill clinton. with the same cannot be said of the cabinet so we thought it would b
bill clinton nor john kennedy but leftist in the white house that we have to defeat. lou: is the governor romney going to b.v. tea explainer in chief? obama's made a joke he was as clear and articulating the policies that have been followed clearer than anyone in the administration. >> i think it will be very clear. those five points you hear about and you have to be concise and clear that is what romney has been but what is the president's record? he doesn't want to talk about it. it...
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there's no one like bill clinton. and when it's like all hands on deck, that's the biggest hand of all is to put bill clinton out there. and they will use him whenever he's available. >> whenever they can. good point, candy. by campaign accounts, romney and president obama, they doept know each other very well, obviously. we're told they've actually only met face-to-face three times over all of these years. so here's the question, what role will that play in tonight's 90-minute debate? >> you know, i was saying about this in some ways i think it makes it easier to go after one another. if you know a person and you've gotten to, you know, see them and maybe chitchat and have some casual talk with them and kind of know them as a person, it becomes pretty difficult to be really aggressive going after them. i think certainly that's something that mitt romney has to do with some nuance to be sure because we are talking about the president of the united states and people are naturally protective of the president. so i think
there's no one like bill clinton. and when it's like all hands on deck, that's the biggest hand of all is to put bill clinton out there. and they will use him whenever he's available. >> whenever they can. good point, candy. by campaign accounts, romney and president obama, they doept know each other very well, obviously. we're told they've actually only met face-to-face three times over all of these years. so here's the question, what role will that play in tonight's 90-minute debate?...
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. >> bill clinton tried the approach i am talking about. we created 23 million new job went from ficit to surplus and businesses did very well. so, in some ways we have data on which approach is more likely to create jobs and opportunities for americans and i believe that the economy works best when middle class families are getting tax breaks so they have money in l pockets and those of us who did extraordinarily well because of the magnificent country we are living in. >> so what came out on top after last night's showdown? we'll ask obama delegate brian benjamin and fox news contractor angela mccowan. >> thank you. >> it was a long night. angela who won and why? >> of course romney did. people want substance and solution and not glorified speeches. obama is good at that and he didn't have the teleprompter and he had to defend what he did. and sometimes he was babbling on and you coon understand -- couldn't understand him. romney stayed on point. he has to perform well in the next debate. >> before we get to the next debate. brian who do
. >> bill clinton tried the approach i am talking about. we created 23 million new job went from ficit to surplus and businesses did very well. so, in some ways we have data on which approach is more likely to create jobs and opportunities for americans and i believe that the economy works best when middle class families are getting tax breaks so they have money in l pockets and those of us who did extraordinarily well because of the magnificent country we are living in. >> so what...
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he leaned on bill clinton to make the case this is no way he could have turned this around in four years. >> the economy is not fixed. i am telling you, nobody could have fixed this much damage in four years. the president's mock plan is better in the short run, the long run and a vision where all of us in this together is better than you be often your own. there is no on your own country in the world succeeding like those who have a good "we are all in this together" strategy. >>reporter: the order of questions is decided. the president gets the first. the problem with the argument that former president clinton made in 2009 president obama said if he didn't turn this around in 3 or 3 1/2 years it would be a one-term proposition. something governor romney will point out. >> the governor aides say -- the obama camp will focus on the economy, taxes and the deficit and will hit romney hard on the idea that bill clinton has been making and made at the democratic national convention in charlotte, north carolina, it does not add up when you look at the romney campaign. >> he will say he will c
he leaned on bill clinton to make the case this is no way he could have turned this around in four years. >> the economy is not fixed. i am telling you, nobody could have fixed this much damage in four years. the president's mock plan is better in the short run, the long run and a vision where all of us in this together is better than you be often your own. there is no on your own country in the world succeeding like those who have a good "we are all in this together" strategy....
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we knew what kind of underwear bill clinton wore. we know nothing about president obama and it is a national security issue. so it is a little -- >> huh? >> stephanie: they're trying this again that he hasn't been vetted? >> they know nothing about president obama? really? >> he might have been born in kenya or mars, we don't know. >> stephanie: what do we base that on? we know his entire background. his entire -- >> by the way, the new -- the new conspiracy is that the kenyan goat herder is not his real dad and that he was actually the son of a black revolutionary radical. >> stephanie: i know but that one makes orly taitzs lose it. >> he would be a natural born citizen. that irritates them. >> stephanie: even the bitters are fighting now. -- >> the illegitimate son of malcolm x which makes him born in the u.s. [ wah wah ] >> how old was malcolm x? >> stephanie: mars. >> it is not unreasonable to ask everyone in america who seeks to vote to prove that they are really entitled to vote. >> every part of voting except -- it is hard to
we knew what kind of underwear bill clinton wore. we know nothing about president obama and it is a national security issue. so it is a little -- >> huh? >> stephanie: they're trying this again that he hasn't been vetted? >> they know nothing about president obama? really? >> he might have been born in kenya or mars, we don't know. >> stephanie: what do we base that on? we know his entire background. his entire -- >> by the way, the new -- the new conspiracy...
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if you remember the clinton/bush i debate, clinton won outright. so romney has to prepare for low expectations for obam awhich will help obama. he has to practice in a forum, in which he can relax with the audience. however, he has one great advantage, romney, he has the facts on his side and the arguments on his side. >> sean: charles krauthammer, love your analysis. your columns have been dead on this entire campaign season, with very few exceptions. a couple of minor disagreements. >> we'll discuss them -- below sea level one day. the dead sea, the place we should do that? all right, charles. thanks for being with us. stephanie cutter's finally telling the truth and let's just say, it is not going to help barack obama. we will play her comments and reince priebus will be here to react. they say debates don't make much of an impact in the polls. that is not the case after mitt romney's monumental victory over obama. we have incredible polls out of virginia, florida and ohio to share with you tonight, right new pink lemonade 5-hour energy? 5-hour
if you remember the clinton/bush i debate, clinton won outright. so romney has to prepare for low expectations for obam awhich will help obama. he has to practice in a forum, in which he can relax with the audience. however, he has one great advantage, romney, he has the facts on his side and the arguments on his side. >> sean: charles krauthammer, love your analysis. your columns have been dead on this entire campaign season, with very few exceptions. a couple of minor disagreements....
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at the state department margaret brennan reports secretary clinton promises a full accounting. >> reporter: were there requests for increase in security in been gazay and did your office reject those requests? >> let me start by cautioning everyone against seizing on any single statement or piece of information to draw a final conclusion. over the course of this review there will naturally be a number of statements made, some of it -- some of which will be borne out and some of which will not. >> reporter: clinton and her aides have consistently pointed to intelligence reports that indicated there was no threat to the u.s. mission, and that it was intelligence agencies that initially said the attack was sparked by a spontaneous demonstration. >> i am aware too that many people are eager for answers. so am i, margaret and no one wants the answers more than we do here at the department. >> reporter: senior aides are handing over emails and paper work to congressional investigators who want to know who knew about the security situation in benghazi. the state department's own five person revie
at the state department margaret brennan reports secretary clinton promises a full accounting. >> reporter: were there requests for increase in security in been gazay and did your office reject those requests? >> let me start by cautioning everyone against seizing on any single statement or piece of information to draw a final conclusion. over the course of this review there will naturally be a number of statements made, some of it -- some of which will be borne out and some of...
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that america couldn't afford another decade of clinton wars. the political pettiness and nastiness that exploded during the clinton era was the fundamental obstacle to fundamental change. hillary's one word explanation for the persistence of the status quo was republicans. obama's one word explanation was washington. the endless than cycles, insult industries and platitudes that made tough choices and common sense compromise impossible. as a symbol and a participant hillary was inextricably linked to that washington gridlock machine. the bickering and parsing, the turtle boomer driven real mitigation of the 60s. she could never make a credible we are one people speech or bring people together to solve big problems. she tried and failed in 1994 with her husband's health care plan. the case for hillary was she knew how to fight republicans. she was comfortable in the oh. the case for obama was he could move politics beyond the clock. in springfield when he enlisted his campaign he listed the four problems you wanted to solve. dependence on oil th
that america couldn't afford another decade of clinton wars. the political pettiness and nastiness that exploded during the clinton era was the fundamental obstacle to fundamental change. hillary's one word explanation for the persistence of the status quo was republicans. obama's one word explanation was washington. the endless than cycles, insult industries and platitudes that made tough choices and common sense compromise impossible. as a symbol and a participant hillary was inextricably...
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secretary of state hillary clinton declared of denniston a major ally but now this controversy comes on what has changed since then. i don't know exactly what's in cars i's mind when he makes the statements that he made which are more or less true statements he may be actually just saying finally look we have to face the truth and starts to speak it it may be that he's looking past twenty fourteen and hoping to be able to continue without the army that more or less installed him on the ground there i don't know which it is but i think that hillary clinton. that was her mission accomplished moment and she really she expresses the wants and desires of the elite in the united states and not necessarily reality which makes these pronouncements mr. running out of time but just quickly tensions between the u.s. and afghanistan have you roaded in the past few months as you know as dozens of foreign soldiers were killed in the so-called green on blue attacks so what forced the local chiefs to turn their guns against a mentos i mean they they were training them they were doing good. again a s
secretary of state hillary clinton declared of denniston a major ally but now this controversy comes on what has changed since then. i don't know exactly what's in cars i's mind when he makes the statements that he made which are more or less true statements he may be actually just saying finally look we have to face the truth and starts to speak it it may be that he's looking past twenty fourteen and hoping to be able to continue without the army that more or less installed him on the ground...
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david from clinton township c-span. good morning. >> caller: good morning. wanted to say something about jennifer granholm. before she was above more, we had a republican governor here. during that time was when the economy was really blooming. the automobile industry was doing very well here. and, and, so the governor lowered tax as here in michigan. that is just before the economic downturn, the auto industry went into the toilet, you you know, so the tax revenue dried up in the state. after jennifer granholm had got on that the office. okay. all of the sudden, michigan is now suffering because similar tax rate that's the previous republican governor have put unplace bus at the time, the economy was growing. hen that fell into the toilet then we had a big financial problem. everybody blamed granholm with that and that, that was not the case. she was a real good governor. she was just look the president obama was stuck a real bad situation to have to deal with. and the negative stigma was placed on her just like on the president due to what had been done be
david from clinton township c-span. good morning. >> caller: good morning. wanted to say something about jennifer granholm. before she was above more, we had a republican governor here. during that time was when the economy was really blooming. the automobile industry was doing very well here. and, and, so the governor lowered tax as here in michigan. that is just before the economic downturn, the auto industry went into the toilet, you you know, so the tax revenue dried up in the state....
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he worked with bill clinton when bill clinton was trying to unseat an incumbent president. are you asking the american people to remove him. governor romney said we know the th we're on, and it's not working. it's not just the voters,voterst states. somebody in ohio told me about the trouble they are having, somebody in denver pulled ann aside. he was trying to tie in personal stories with people who live here. in these states we have gold on the map. that's how we will tell the next few days what the true judges think. and they are the voters and especially the voters in the swing states. does the polling in colorado, for example, does it move. this one very close right now, a dead heat, in recent days, the place romney needs to move the most, the state of ohio, almost impossible to see mitt romney winning the presidency in ohio. a five, maybe six point lead. the thing we need to watch over the next few days, does this move the polls in the swing states here? and, wolf, as you go into the vice presidential debate. camp on in. the vice presidential debate, then two more, th
he worked with bill clinton when bill clinton was trying to unseat an incumbent president. are you asking the american people to remove him. governor romney said we know the th we're on, and it's not working. it's not just the voters,voterst states. somebody in ohio told me about the trouble they are having, somebody in denver pulled ann aside. he was trying to tie in personal stories with people who live here. in these states we have gold on the map. that's how we will tell the next few days...
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he said to mitt romney -- the line he said to hillary clinton, you are likable enough. neither one is apt to make a huge gaffe. >> who is undecided? this is all about. >> tiny amounts of people. tiny amounts of precincts in states. in some ways, it might not be mitt romney's last chance that it is his last best chance to break through and show people that he cares about them, he cares about their problems but that has been an issue for him. he has advantages on some of the other issues. so much of these debates is about the body language, the social clues. do they look pleasant? did they look like someone you want to have in your living room for the next four years? that will be important. >> in terms of the immediate impact of this debate, will we know after the media has pored over all the tricks and turns? >> we will know what the consensus of the media is. there are these polls, they will have some polls as early as tomorrow. we over analyze everything. i suspect in the next 48 hours, something will jell about what the outcome was. >> what about specific voter group
he said to mitt romney -- the line he said to hillary clinton, you are likable enough. neither one is apt to make a huge gaffe. >> who is undecided? this is all about. >> tiny amounts of people. tiny amounts of precincts in states. in some ways, it might not be mitt romney's last chance that it is his last best chance to break through and show people that he cares about them, he cares about their problems but that has been an issue for him. he has advantages on some of the other...
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hillary clinton spoke to the turkish foreign minister and said the u.s. will support turkey in this. all are condemning syria and holding syria to account. this as also more trouble for the administration with benghazi. the hill is now asking for answers. they want a hearing next week. hillary clinton said today that no one wants to know more than she and the president what happened in benghazi, but we've confirmed that the fbi has not been able to get on the ground because of continuing security concerns, and at this point, more documents, secret and sensitive documents like this one, are still at large in that site being secured only by libyans at the scene and not well indeed. >> and on top of that there were demonstrators in the streets of tehran today because the currency there has collapsed. but we remind everybody that tonight's debate is at least supposed to be about domestic and economic items. andrea mitchell, part of our team in denver. we'll talk to you later tonight. >>> even given the clear and distinct choice between these two candidates th
hillary clinton spoke to the turkish foreign minister and said the u.s. will support turkey in this. all are condemning syria and holding syria to account. this as also more trouble for the administration with benghazi. the hill is now asking for answers. they want a hearing next week. hillary clinton said today that no one wants to know more than she and the president what happened in benghazi, but we've confirmed that the fbi has not been able to get on the ground because of continuing...
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today secretary of state hillary clinton promised a full and open investigation into the terror attack on the u.s. consulate in benghazi, libya, three weeks ago. four americans, you'll recall, were killed, including ambassador chris stevens. there are a lot of questions about what happened. margaret brennan has been following this story and she's at the state department tonight. margaret? >> reporter: good evening, scott. the secretary of state reacted to pressure from the public, the press, and the house oversight committee to address the controversy around the administration's response to that attack on the u.s. consulate in benghazi. were there multiple requests for increased security in tripoli and benghazi and can you address whether washington or your office rejected those requests? >> well, let me start by cautioning everyone against seizing on any single statement or piece of information to draw a final conclusion. over the course of this review there will naturally be a number of statements made, some of which will be borne out and some of which will not. >> reporter: clinton
today secretary of state hillary clinton promised a full and open investigation into the terror attack on the u.s. consulate in benghazi, libya, three weeks ago. four americans, you'll recall, were killed, including ambassador chris stevens. there are a lot of questions about what happened. margaret brennan has been following this story and she's at the state department tonight. margaret? >> reporter: good evening, scott. the secretary of state reacted to pressure from the public, the...
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obviously bill clinton comes to mind, he excelled in those debates. >> bill clinton was the master of the town hall format. he made such a great, strong emotional connection with the people asking the questions. just in an absolutely masterful way. i think it favors candidates who have that particular style, but what it does tend to do is discourage a lot of attacks among the candidates on the stage, because it's really hard to do that, it's hard to pull that off when you've got a group of citizens who are there to ask their questions. that's not a very good venue for one candidate to launch an attack against another. >> one of the side notes from last night was governor romney's big bird reference on twitter, it's been talked about today. you say governor romney has a history of making cultural references or pop culture references that don't necessarily help his message. how so? >> well, you know, his pop culture references are just a little off somehow. they're out of date in some ways. during the primary debates, he made a reference to, that as governor of massachusetts, he didn't
obviously bill clinton comes to mind, he excelled in those debates. >> bill clinton was the master of the town hall format. he made such a great, strong emotional connection with the people asking the questions. just in an absolutely masterful way. i think it favors candidates who have that particular style, but what it does tend to do is discourage a lot of attacks among the candidates on the stage, because it's really hard to do that, it's hard to pull that off when you've got a group...
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bush won and clinton did really well. so that's going to be a challenge. romney is really good one on one. it will be different in a town hall for him. >> bret: we have the wit of the staircase sometimes here on the panel. when we leave the panel, man, why didn't i say that. >> i have the wit of the car every night. [ laughter ] >> bret: speaking of the biden-ryan set-up as we got ready to head to kentucky, kirsten, you listen to that sound bite and you heard charles say, oh, it's just biden. there are people who look at joe biden and say, listen, he really identifies with middle class folks. he can be gaffe prone, but he also can be good. his speech at the democratic convention was arguably very good. setting the table for that debate, we'll have plenty of days to talk about it, but bouncing off that sound bite? >> he is good. that's not the point. the point is that if you were to string together a couple months worth of his comments such as the middle class has been buried under the obama administration, i mean, these are things that i think other people
bush won and clinton did really well. so that's going to be a challenge. romney is really good one on one. it will be different in a town hall for him. >> bret: we have the wit of the staircase sometimes here on the panel. when we leave the panel, man, why didn't i say that. >> i have the wit of the car every night. [ laughter ] >> bret: speaking of the biden-ryan set-up as we got ready to head to kentucky, kirsten, you listen to that sound bite and you heard charles say, oh,...
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could have gone after him sooner and attributeded to secretary of state hillary clinton. what? as you recall, even a former defense secretary robert gates who served with bush described obama's decision to order the raid as gutsy saying people don't realize what a tough call it was. he and vice president biden both advised obama against the raid because they didn't have 100% surety he was there. so i don't know what you're talking about john sununu but nice try. [ applause ] >> he's the worst surrogate ever! >> stephanie: 29 minutes after the hour. it's still monday. even though it's not his usual time but it is time for rudeness. rude pundit joins us next on "the stephanie miller show." (vo) what is said here could decide the election. current tv presents coverage of the presidential debate. with unrivaled analysis and commentary. >> you're going to hear that used as a major talking point. (vo) the only network with real-time reaction straight from the campaigns and from viewers like you. >>now that's politically direct. [ ♪ music ♪ ] >> announcer: stephanie miller. >> we
could have gone after him sooner and attributeded to secretary of state hillary clinton. what? as you recall, even a former defense secretary robert gates who served with bush described obama's decision to order the raid as gutsy saying people don't realize what a tough call it was. he and vice president biden both advised obama against the raid because they didn't have 100% surety he was there. so i don't know what you're talking about john sununu but nice try. [ applause ] >> he's the...
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take a listen to bill clinton. >> the economy is not fixed. i'm telling you nobody could have fixed this much damage in four years. but the president's economic plan is better in the short run, better in the long run and a vision of we're all in this together is a heck of a lot better than you're on your own. there is no you're on your own country in the world succeeding like those who have a good we're all in this together strategy. [cheers and applause] none, not one. the challenge for the president tonight though is back in early 2009 he said if he didn't turn around the economy for n. three years it would be a one-term proposition. that's the problem when you are incouple again you have got a record that's going to it be under microscope not just from the moderator but mitt romney as well, shep. >> shepard: it seems he has a strategy of his own for going after mitt romney. >> when you talk about the president's advisors he says this is all policy. the president could be on the defensive talking about jobs, talking about debt. what they are
take a listen to bill clinton. >> the economy is not fixed. i'm telling you nobody could have fixed this much damage in four years. but the president's economic plan is better in the short run, better in the long run and a vision of we're all in this together is a heck of a lot better than you're on your own. there is no you're on your own country in the world succeeding like those who have a good we're all in this together strategy. [cheers and applause] none, not one. the challenge for...
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president obama is much more ke keeping with president clinton. it's a balanced approach. and mitt romney is still waving around the magic wand, that if you cut taxes for millionaires and billionaires, that grows jobs rather than deficits. and we know that's not true. so he did have an elevated level of debate. and fortunately, we have a few more rounds. >> well, i'll tell you, i'll use the word skated and danced and tap danced, but those are not the adjectives that people who watched the debate, frankly, on both sides of the aisle, that were using. they felt that governor romney was aggressive, assertive, and came to play. sort of the opposite for president obama. are you worried that people who did not see the debate, which will be the majority, maybe the majority of the people who will now be voters going to the polls, that this will affect them as well? that, you know, this means a big change in poll numbers, which have of late been favoring the president? >> i don't believe that you'll see a fundamental change in the dynamics of this race. and i believe the big questi
president obama is much more ke keeping with president clinton. it's a balanced approach. and mitt romney is still waving around the magic wand, that if you cut taxes for millionaires and billionaires, that grows jobs rather than deficits. and we know that's not true. so he did have an elevated level of debate. and fortunately, we have a few more rounds. >> well, i'll tell you, i'll use the word skated and danced and tap danced, but those are not the adjectives that people who watched the...
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and it was like living under clinton. as long as it needs to last until people's daily. europe's ingolf to protest his frustration over disintegrating economies and biting cuts into violent clashes with police. syria and iran top the debate of this year's un general assembly with russia calling for peace and israel drawing prospects for war. also provides julian assange with a video link to the un he makes his first speech to world leaders that attacks the persecution of wiki leaks while holed up in the ecuadorian embassy in london. hello this is r.t. live from moscow this sunday evening it's kevin owen here with our roundup of the big stories of the past seven days and first protests against biting spending cuts continue throughout europe as people vent their anger over a bailout sponsored austerity must step instructions in madrid turn to violence earlier this week his police were forced to fire rubber bullets to calm the fears of the public the big dozens of arrests and injuries assays jacob great thing for development. for some time of grief in spain have occurred wi
and it was like living under clinton. as long as it needs to last until people's daily. europe's ingolf to protest his frustration over disintegrating economies and biting cuts into violent clashes with police. syria and iran top the debate of this year's un general assembly with russia calling for peace and israel drawing prospects for war. also provides julian assange with a video link to the un he makes his first speech to world leaders that attacks the persecution of wiki leaks while holed...
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that after the election that they will both be knocking at china's door themselves recall that bill clinton in one thousand nine hundred two running against george h.w. bush spoke at the beijing pictures but after the november nineteenth to play to a lecture he helped to usher china into the world trade organization that's the kind of hot pockets need that basically turns off a good deal of the u.s. electorate how can you have a realistic debate about the problems that this country faces the many problems this country faces when the kinds of analysis and critique from the left are basically excluded basically this debate comes down in many ways to a choice between tweedle dum and tweedle dee nice way of putting it us historian gerald hole now ok let's get to business now u.s. jobs numbers are even not too bad news others are. not too bad preliminary report from a.d.p. says under sixty two thousand jobs were added in the united states in the month of september and therefore the markets they're looking positive we'll have to wait for a full report of course tomorrow on the news europe's marke
that after the election that they will both be knocking at china's door themselves recall that bill clinton in one thousand nine hundred two running against george h.w. bush spoke at the beijing pictures but after the november nineteenth to play to a lecture he helped to usher china into the world trade organization that's the kind of hot pockets need that basically turns off a good deal of the u.s. electorate how can you have a realistic debate about the problems that this country faces the...